Sword and heart symbol

mollyL · 03-03-2008, 05:16 PM

I was reading in the Symbols section about how one of the Masonic symbols is a sword pointed toward a heart. I recall seeing this symbol connected to piracy, anyone else know anything about that?

**Ashlar521** · 03-04-2008, 05:14 AM

In Freemasonry the sword pointing to the naked heart is a symbol that demonstrates that justice sooner or later will over take us . And yes I've seen a pirate flag in one of my books on pirates that does look similar to that symbol . Pirates used many flags , it is a fallacy that all pirate ships flew the skull and cross bones , they flew flags of their own design . Take Edward Teach's( Blackbeard) flag , his flag was a skeleton with horn's holding a hour glass in one hand and a spear pointing to a bleeding heart in the other .

mollyL · 03-04-2008, 12:51 PM

Just so, Ashlar, about pirates. Some would also fly a nation's flag and as soon as they got within firing distance they would raise the Jolly Roger to instill a little fear and cooperation in their prey. I know it would with me!

ninikins · 03-12-2008, 09:07 AM

I never realised that pirates use symbolism in their emblems and flags! Makes sense though

chocoguy · 03-22-2008, 04:43 AM

I never realize that the sword that the meaning of the sword has something to do with pirates. Maybe, the first mason is a pirate.

**Ashlar521** · 03-22-2008, 10:59 AM

The masonic sword and heart symbol has nothing to do with pirates . We were just conversing on how it resembles some pirate flags .

chocoguy · 03-23-2008, 02:24 AM

Sorry, I didn't unerstand while I was reading it. Anyway I think that you have a nice topic here.
Thanks for letting me know!

03-03-2008, 05:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
mollyL Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 104	Sword and heart symbol I was reading in the Symbols section about how one of the Masonic symbols is a sword pointed toward a heart. I recall seeing this symbol connected to piracy, anyone else know anything about that?

03-04-2008, 05:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ashlar521 Semper fidelis Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 593 Blog Entries: 3	In Freemasonry the sword pointing to the naked heart is a symbol that demonstrates that justice sooner or later will over take us . And yes I've seen a pirate flag in one of my books on pirates that does look similar to that symbol . Pirates used many flags , it is a fallacy that all pirate ships flew the skull and cross bones , they flew flags of their own design . Take Edward Teach's( Blackbeard) flag , his flag was a skeleton with horn's holding a hour glass in one hand and a spear pointing to a bleeding heart in the other . __________________ Freemasonry is "veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols" because these are the surest way by which moral and ethical truths may be taught. It is not only with the brain and with the mind that the initiate must take Freemasonry but also with the heart. -C. H. Claudy

03-22-2008, 10:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ashlar521 Semper fidelis Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 593 Blog Entries: 3	The masonic sword and heart symbol has nothing to do with pirates . We were just conversing on how it resembles some pirate flags . __________________ Freemasonry is "veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols" because these are the surest way by which moral and ethical truths may be taught. It is not only with the brain and with the mind that the initiate must take Freemasonry but also with the heart. -C. H. Claudy Last edited by Ashlar521; 03-22-2008 at 11:03 AM.

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03-04-2008, 12:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
mollyL Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 104	Just so, Ashlar, about pirates. Some would also fly a nation's flag and as soon as they got within firing distance they would raise the Jolly Roger to instill a little fear and cooperation in their prey. I know it would with me!

03-12-2008, 09:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
ninikins Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 24	I never realised that pirates use symbolism in their emblems and flags! Makes sense though

03-22-2008, 04:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
chocoguy Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 28	I never realize that the sword that the meaning of the sword has something to do with pirates. Maybe, the first mason is a pirate.

03-23-2008, 02:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
chocoguy Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 28	Sorry, I didn't unerstand while I was reading it. Anyway I think that you have a nice topic here. Thanks for letting me know!