initiation into accepted apprentice

Discussion in 'Ask a Mason' started by triplet86, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. triplet86

    triplet86 New Member

    I am in the process of turning in my petition to my local lodge, have to great masters of which i have known for a long time, signing for me. i do have a question though, i am wondering, is there a LOT of memory work for this first degree? i know there will be much to learn and memorize in the other degrees, i'm just nervous about the initiation. My memory is not what i would consider very good, and i don't want to let anyone down, mainly myself, but also the 2 masters signing for me.

    Thanks for any help
  2. removed12612

    removed12612 Guest

    If two masters have signed for you then they must feel you are worthy and able to complete the work or they never would have signed for you. Signing a petition is not something we do just for the fun of it, it is an honor to sign for a person you feel would make a good mason.
  3. Gary

    Gary Guest

    I'll add to Fireman's comment by saying that the EA degree has the steepest learning curve for a lot of initiates. Not that the work is hard, it's more of a matter of developing the tools you need to remember the catechisms and make sense of them. Because it's all new, it seems hard.

    After your initiation, you will be assigned a mentor who will be your guide and resource for doing just that. The fact that you are concerned about this is a good thing. You will do fine. Just remember that every Mason that ever was has done the same thing. The object is not to have you fail, it is to help you better yourself.
  4. Bob Franks

    Bob Franks District Deputy Grand Lecturer

    Lodge:
    Wayne Lodge 112, AF&AM of NC
    Verified:
    Yes
    My friend, if you can learn the Pledge of Allegiance (I am assuming you are in the USA), you can do the memory work required to progress in Masonry. Yes, it is a bit longer, but you CAN do it. I have coached (or taught or mentored) several candidates and not one died of it. :D
    More than the memorization, is the other time you will spend with your coach. There's a lot going on outside of the memory stuff! This is where you will learn about Masonry.

    Good luck, my friend
    Keep us posted on your progress!
    Sincerely and Fraternally
  5. Duncan1574

    Duncan1574 Lodge Chaplain & arms dealer Staff Member

    Lodge:
    Ozaukee 17
    Staff:
    Moderator
    Verified:
    Yes
    All good answers, I have found that it is the words & sentence structure of the catechism that trips me up, I have the knowledge of what the material is presenting, but I am having difficulty getting the words to come flowingly from my mouth.

    I learned the Pledge of Allegiance when I was very young, and the younger you learn something the easier it is to retain. My steel trap mind's hinges are just a bit rustier than they used to be and the WD-40 just runs back out of my ears.....
  6. Gary

    Gary Guest

    Yeah, the wording can be troublesome. It's a matter of learning it in phrases and using inflection in your voice at the pauses to recite it properly. At least that's what worked for me.
  7. Zack

    Zack Active Member

    Verified:
    Yes
    It worked well. I heard your proficiency.
  8. Gary

    Gary Guest

    Thank you Brother!
  9. removed12612

    removed12612 Guest

    I can think of no greater compliment than a Brother telling you that your work is good.
  10. Gary

    Gary Guest

    I agree, but I can't take full credit for my work. I had an excellent mentor. If it weren't for him, I probably wouldn't have learned so well. He had the patience of a saint. As long as I worked, he was willing to spend every day with me.
  11. Zack

    Zack Active Member

    Verified:
    Yes
    Agreed. He is a good one. If I have a question about the catechisms I go to Lucky.

    I know from experience that to teach someone who wants to learn and puts his heart into it is a reward.

    So you are going to be installed by the GM I understand, First time that has happened in Springs Lodge. Hope there is a good attendance.
  12. Gary

    Gary Guest

    Yes we are! I hope there is a good turn out of brothers too. It would be great if you could attend as well! I plan on attending your installation the following evening.
  13. triplet86

    triplet86 New Member

    I appreciate the good words from all of you. Ya'll have been very helpful.

    Thanks
  14. wisniewskim

    wisniewskim New Member

    Lodge:
    Reading 549 (W. Reading PA)
    Memorization

    There is no memorization for your Entered Apprentice. There is perhaps 30 seconds for your Fellowcraft, an additional 30 seconds for Master. That is true here in PA and I believe most every other state. In the good old days, there was much, much more.
  15. Gary

    Gary Guest

    I'm not sure where you are from, but that is definitely not the case in my Jurisdiction. On the average, it's about 2000 words per degree. I've never heard it done in 30 seconds.
  16. Winter

    Winter I've been here before

    Verified:
    Yes
    Not the same in my Lodge, the process of examination and memorization takes a little while for each degree as we work in the Emulation Rite.
  17. Ashlar2006

    Ashlar2006 Masonic Mafia Staff Member

    Staff:
    Manager
    Verified:
    Yes
    This could not be further from the truth in my state . There is much to memorize as an EA .

    Edit * Just counted them , there is 53 Qs' & As' and the obligation that the EA will need to put to memory .
  18. BG_TRBL

    BG_TRBL Watcher of the posts Staff Member

    Lodge:
    LaBelle Vallee Lodge #232
    Staff:
    Moderator
    I have to agree with him. During the degrees, there is minimal information that must be remembered and presented. The candidate only participates verbally for about 30 seconds in each degree. The presiding master is who does the rest of the verbal legwork. Although the individual requirements for proficiency may differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, I have never seen a candidate participate verbally more than that.
  19. BG_TRBL

    BG_TRBL Watcher of the posts Staff Member

    Lodge:
    LaBelle Vallee Lodge #232
    Staff:
    Moderator
    Just as a question, is this for the degree or is this for the proficiency? What I had read refers to specifically the degree. The candidate doesn't reiterate all of this during the degree.
  20. Ashlar2006

    Ashlar2006 Masonic Mafia Staff Member

    Staff:
    Manager
    Verified:
    Yes
    For the proficiency , I do believe we are talking about two different things .

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