Math Problem

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  1. jason Nec timeo, nec sperno

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    Can you answer this without googling it.

    40 + 40 x 0 + 1 = ???
  2. removed12612 Guest

    41
    I just did a problem similar to this in my math class this term...

    to get the answer, you do the multiplication first then addition:
    40+(40x0)+1
    40x0=0
    40+1=41
  3. CoachN Builder Builder

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    I concur. That's how I was instructed to work such a problem.
  4. Duncan1574 Lodge Chaplain

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    41
    Standard order of operations
  5. Custer148 Masonic Traveler

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    I can come up with 2 answers depends on what () and [] you insert

    1, 41,

    so vote for your favorite
  6. removed12612 Guest

    based on the OP...it has to be 41..... I only inserted the () as a way of demonstrating the multiplication problem first..... you can get different answers depending on where you put the () also....

    40+40x(0+1)= 80
  7. FF Sparky Member

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    its 1...the only time you would multiply 40x0 would be if it was in ()

    example 40+(40x0)+1=41

    but 40+40 is 80x0 is 0+1=1

    You don't put () were you want, it has to be original placed in the equation for a reason

    and [] is only used when you need to put as for example 40+[(40x0)+1]=? which the answer would be 41 or [40+(40x0)]+1= 41, () gets figured first, then [], then everything afterwards
  8. removed12612 Guest

    NOPE.....

    Do it on a calculator if ya dont believe me..... it is just a matter of doing the math in order of operations.... multiplication or division comes first unless there are () or [] then addition and subtraction. SO as written 40 + 40 x 0 + 1 = ??? the only answer you can get is 41
  9. FF Sparky Member

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    Hmmm...I don't remember an order of operation, but my calculator proves your right, and my bosses kid who is going to college explained it to me also.
  10. BukeyeJackson ViMH Advisory Board

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    How many Masons...
  11. removed12612 Guest

    I didnt remember it either but I happen to be taking algebra :4-book: this term so it is not like I am a mathematics wizard :3-dunce:..... It is only a matter of right place...right time....

    As for how many masons does it take..... it depends on the degree you are working....:1-wink-grin:
  12. Gary2112 Masonic Jedi

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    When I first looked at the problem, I thought that something was missing from the equation. The brackets being included would have made it easier. Then I remembered that you do the multiplication first. :1-say-yes:
  13. Duncan1574 Lodge Chaplain

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    Change, you want to CHANGE something? :confused:
  14. Brother Jason Eddy Member

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    Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally!!!!

    I will never forget that, mostly because of how goofy my teacher sounded when he would say it.....Order of operations....

    Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction:1-say-yes:
  15. CoachN Builder Builder

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    Following the rules is important. But knowing "WHY" those rules are to be followed, that is something else. Keep in mind, these rules are not put into place because everyone merely "agreed" to them. There is a mechanical linkage in these operations that must be remembered for this is how the universe actually Works.
  16. jason Nec timeo, nec sperno

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    That is easy when you are married with kids. Say you have $20 in your wallet. Government takes $5. The wife takes $10 and the kids take $10. Leaving you in debt.
  17. removed12612 Guest

    If my wife let me have a 20 and the govt took 5 she would be mad and take the rest.....:1-wink-grin:
  18. Bob Franks District Deputy Grand Lecturer

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    I can't cipher near that high!
    I got to take off my shoes to go higher than 10.

    :D
  19. PatrickWilliams I could tell you ...

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    Shoes??? You can afford shoes???
  20. Bob Franks District Deputy Grand Lecturer

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    When my sister's not using them. :D

    [pretty far from]S&F

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