Short time in Chair

Discussion in 'General masonic Discussion' started by FF Sparky, Jul 21, 2011.

  1. FF Sparky Member

    Lodge:
    Federal Lodge #17
    Why is the WM only in position for one year? Is it the same as moving thru the degrees quickly? Seems to me that as soon as one gets into the groove of things they are replaced with someone else. Is this just a way to get everyone the Lodge to get to PM status?
  2. Winter Not New

    Lodge:
    Ben Franklin #83 (EC)
    The term limit has nothing to do with getting more Brothers into the East. The more important reason to have a defined term that is not overly long is more likely to prevent a tyrant. A Brother that enjoys his perceived power (and wants to keep it) and maybe has the popular vote in the Lodge.

    But the Master is not restricted to only one year in the East. At least not in Wisconsin. Both of the Lodges I currently belong to have an understanding that a term in each chair is actually two years. At the end of the first year a vote is held as required for the elected officers, but barring extenuating circumstances is for formality. My two years in the East was welcome since it seemed like much of the first year I spent figuring things out but having that extra year meant that I could really get things done and work on leaving my Lodge better than I found it.
  3. Windrider Plus-sized tuxedo model

    Lodge:
    Ancient York (no numbers in MA)
    Our Lodge is the same, the Master normally presides for two years.
  4. Ashlar2006 Masonic Mafia

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    Not everyone wants the Past Master status . Many , many brothers are more than content to sit on the sidelines their entire Masonic careers . We have many fine brothers who are active and always there when we need them who have never taken the first chair in the line .

    More than likely , I will be putting in yet another year in the East next year as we had a hole in the chair line , my JW dropped out of the line and did not move up to SW this year .
  5. BukeyeJackson ViMH Advisory Board

    Lodge:
    Reynoldsburg 340 F&AM of Ohio
    I like the two year idea... this might come to practice in my Lodge out of need however.
  6. removed12612 Guest

    We are a green lodge.... we recycle A LOT:eek::eek:;)
  7. Bob Franks District Deputy Grand Lecturer

    Lodge:
    Wayne Lodge 112, AF&AM of NC
    Like!

    S&F
  8. bigrodennis New Member

    Lodge:
    E. W. Hightower #679
    In GA

    In GA, most Lodges do move the Mster on after one year. Most feel that one year in that position is enough. Inour Lodge, however, we have had to "recycle" our Past Masters due to a long time lack of growth. I must admit that it is easier the second time one does it. The first time we are all still learning the ins and outs. I am on the Grand Lodge Masonic Education and Leadership Development Commission as a District Director and we have classes that cover the duties of the officers. We go into great detail as to what is expected in each chair. The Master has awsome responsibilities. It can be overwhelming. I do like the idea of a 2 year term but some, no most, only want it for one. I have been lucky to have served 3 different Lodges as Master. The second and third times were easier than the first for sure. I knew the job, the code and I was able to really do some good.
    Ralph
    Master Sharptop Lodge #680 - 2001
    Master E. W. Hightower Lodge #679-2006 (Secretary 2007-present)
    Master GA Mountain Daylight #758- 2009
    MELD District Director- Grand Lodge of GA- 2004- present
  9. PatrickWilliams I could tell you ...

    Lodge:
    Racine-Belle City Lodge #18
    The Lodges I have belonged to are all 'one year' Lodges. However, Masters DO recycle sometimes. That being said, I look at the list of Masters on the wall of our Lodge and I notice that 'in the old days' (the mid 1850's for my Lodge) Masters tended to sit for several years. I am told that there are jurisdictions (even within the USA) where a Master sits until such time as there is someone qualified to replace him. And, of course, qualified means proficient in the esoteric work.
  10. Ashlar2006 Masonic Mafia

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    The pictures on our wall say the same thing . Masters in the good ol' days of my lodge sat in the East for 3 , 4 and 5 years in a row . Our very First Past Master held the chair for seven years .

    PS : Welcome back Bro Patrick .
  11. Bropreston New Member

    my own lodge is a "one year lodge", one of our joining members is orginally from scotland where taking two years in each office isnt uncommon. He tells me that it works very well. I have taken my first step on "the ladder" this year as tyler and must admit I`m glad its just for one year as I`m very keen to get back inside! :)
  12. Ashlar2006 Masonic Mafia

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    In my lodge and surrounding lodges , the Tyler is normally reserved for Past Masters (or members who do not want to go through the chair line) , because of the reason that you are outside the door . Hard to watch and learn when you can not see what is going on .
  13. Bropreston New Member

    very true brother, that is how most lodges in our area do things, it raised a few eyebrows at our installation when I was invested, but my own lodge tends to have its own way of doing things.....:)
  14. Allan Gold PM PM 1996 and 2006

    Lodge:
    Garden No. 366 (Florida)
    I am a 2-time Past Master, 1996 & 2006, of a Florida Lodge [Garden #366], and do not understand what "getting in the groove" means. I went through the Line from Junior Stewart all the way through the East. By the time I was in the WM's chair, I was in the groove. After spending 7 years advancing toward the "Light", you should be ready. One year is enough if you have pre-planned, and it would not be prudent to make others wait another year. These are just my thoughts.
    i am proficient in all sections of all Degrees, the MM Apron presentation, and all 3 Charges. I guess I am in the groove.
  15. Ashlar2006 Masonic Mafia

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    Yes , Everyone has their own way of doing things .
  16. FF Sparky Member

    Lodge:
    Federal Lodge #17
    I didnt think of the 7 years of advancement to the WM chair to hone your skills and make your plans. Thanks for shedding new light on this subject for me. Give me a different aspect of looking at it.
  17. PatrickWilliams I could tell you ...

    Lodge:
    Racine-Belle City Lodge #18
    Why, thanks, Ash! :)
  18. Winter Not New

    Lodge:
    Ben Franklin #83 (EC)
    That's great you were spot on the first time in the East. Many of us were not so fortunate. For many, it is unlike anything we have ever done before and there is definitely a settling in process, or "getting in the groove" if you will. From my experience as a PM, having two years to make plans and get things done was much better. It allowed me multiple opportunities to correct any mistakes or try new ideas for the Lodge with realistic time-lines instead of rushing to get as much done as I could in one year.
  19. BukeyeJackson ViMH Advisory Board

    Lodge:
    Reynoldsburg 340 F&AM of Ohio
    Yes, Welcome back Bro. Patrick....

    The first Master of my Lodge served for 8 years, most weren't concurrent. Many have held the seat more than once but most are out of order!


    He was expelled by us then reinstated by GL so other than that info I'm told nothing else!

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