Speed-of-light results under scrutiny at Cern

Discussion in 'Science and the Arts' started by jason, Oct 19, 2011.

  1. jason Nec timeo, nec sperno

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    A meeting at Cern, the world's largest physics lab, has addressed results that suggest subatomic particles have gone faster than the speed of light.
    The team has published its work so other scientists can determine if the approach contains any mistakes.
    If it does not, one of the pillars of modern science may come tumbling down.
    Antonio Ereditato added "words of caution" to his Cern presentation because of the "potentially great impact on physics" of the result.
    The speed of light is widely held to be the Universe's ultimate speed limit, and much of modern physics - as laid out in part by Albert Einstein in his theory of special relativity - depends on the idea that nothing can exceed it.


    more BBC News - Speed-of-light results under scrutiny at Cern
  2. Bob Franks District Deputy Grand Lecturer

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    One of the hallmarks of science is that research results must be reproducible to be valid.
    A tongue-in-cheek term in medicine to refer to a dubious result is, "A series of one."

    S&F
  3. Mark Farrin New Member

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    Sometimes pillars will fall, remember the notion of the world being flat?
  4. Robert Birtch DeMolay/Freemason

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    Hey, lets see them reproduce the same experiment and hope they get the same result. I hope they do. I really want the US to be the first in superluminous travel. Let's see China be able to send ships into deep space and back.
  5. CoachN Builder Builder

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    The error is found in the way they are keeping track of time. They are using satellites. Satellites are in orbit and travel at a different speed. This will introduce extra time into the measurement and make the neutrinos appear to be traveling faster.
  6. jason Nec timeo, nec sperno

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    So there was an error found? Haven't looked at the news yet today.
  7. Gary2112 Masonic Jedi

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    I'm surprised they didn't consider that from the beginning. it seems to be a rather elementary level error. :confused:
  8. FF Sparky Member

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    will it affect us as a society? I doubt it. Just scientifically.
  9. CoachN Builder Builder

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    Tampa Bay Lodge No. 252
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    The error WAS the satellite distance and speeds were not figured into the equations.
  10. Duncan1574 Lodge Chaplain

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    Ozaukee 17
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    oh GOOD! I was worried that my radar gun was WAY off calibration. :4spam:

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