Can an EA watch an EA rehearsal? *NEED QUICK REPLY*

Josh

Member
I have a couple hours until an EA rehearsal is going on, my lodge is trying to find out if i can come watch. I know all jurisdictions are different but is there a general rule about this?
 

Wallens05

Master Mason
As long as your an EA then yes you should be able to attend BUT if they open or close in any other degree they'll have to escort you out of the room until its back in EA or closed. Hope this helped.

Steven
 

MWS

Active Member
Too bad, that's strange...you've taken your EA obligation, there should be no reason why you can't view the degree from the sidelines. As you say, each jurisdiction is different...
 

Josh

Member
Yea the lodge didn't have a problem with it but apparently some higher up guy (never met him, i forget his title ) said i wasn't allowed until i was a MM ( which i understand ) . Thanks for your quick reply though steven!
 

Wallens05

Master Mason
Hey no worries brother that's what we're here for that's strange that he intervened like that we'll I hope someone in your jurisdiction can get you a answer why or why not it is a learn experience when you see it.


Steven
 

Gary2112

Troll Stomper
Staff member
Yea the lodge didn't have a problem with it but apparently some higher up guy (never met him, i forget his title ) said i wasn't allowed until i was a MM ( which i understand ) . Thanks for your quick reply though steven!
Thats really strange. Id find out who the "higher up" guy was and see if he can offer an explanation as to why you couldnt attend.

Like Steven said, you would only be escorted out of the lodge when they were working in another degree. Typically thats the opening and closing of the Lodge if they dont operate in the EA for business etc...

Dont take answers like that without explanation. Youll never learn the ins and outs of the fraternity if you dont. And occasionally, some blow hard will try to fool you with trumpery just because he has a fancy apron.
 

Ashlar2006

Masonic Mafia
We use EA's as candidates for our EA degree practices , we get to practice with a live candidate and they get to see things more...ummmm... clearly if you get my meaning . They even have the chance to ask questions themselves .

So it IS strange that they would not allow it , unless they are like us in that we sometimes get into conversations concerning the other degrees . This makes it awkward for us , so we wait until we are done with the EA practice and then send them on their merry way .


And I agree with Gary , ask why . I know I would want the answer to that question myself .
 

CoachN

Builder Builder
Yea the lodge didn't have a problem with it but apparently some higher up guy (never met him, i forget his title ) said i wasn't allowed until i was a MM ( which i understand ) . Thanks for your quick reply though steven!
I believe he is mistaken. Unless he can cite a Digest law, you should be able to attend to anything and participate in anything that is at the EA level. I would demand he produce the law governing his decision or insist he stop the stonewalling. That is your right. Start exercising it without reservation.
 

Josh

Member
Yea, I'm seeing my mentor again tonight ( more casual then learning, just a little get together, but I'll ask him in more detail why i wasn't allowed to attend.) Maybe there's a better reason or like you's said maybe we had something bigger than EA that night and I couldn't witness it.
 
That is very strange indeed, When I was an EA I stood in as the "candidate" twice for rehearsal. It actually really helped alot to see it done again and it helped with the Catechism.
 

jaya

Active Member
Did you learn the reason for not being allowed to attend. Unless you code forbids it, and I am not sure why it would, you should have been allowed to be there. There was nothing that would happen that you have not already seen. The only reason that I can think of is if they were practicing the FC or MM as well.
 

Josh

Member
I'm not going to lie I haven't brought it up yet because its not something that really bothered me. I'll be a master in a few months anyway so why stress over the little things?
 

Gary2112

Troll Stomper
Staff member
I'm not going to lie I haven't brought it up yet because its not something that really bothered me. I'll be a master in a few months anyway so why stress over the little things?
It's not a matter of stressing over little things. it's a matter of having the gumption to get information, and not be a tool to the system. If you are OK with being told what you can and can't do, even though you may be entitled to it, so be it. We were only trying to impress upon you the need to be assertive, and inquisitive so that you can get the most from your masonic experience.
 

Ashlar2006

Masonic Mafia
I agree with Gary . Also , Do not let these old heads dictate to you without you asking why . I have seen to many new Masons beaten down by these old heads who still think they run everything . Then Masons like myself who were not going to take "because that's how we do it !!" as an answer came along .

Never settle for "That's how we always done it ." as an answer .
 

Josh

Member
Yea I understand, but like I said if your not a MM in our lodge usually you cant participate it much ( even the letter they sent me regarding my FC degree date, they explained this might be a time where you feel left out because you cant partake in most stuff). I just don't wanna be "that guy" yet where everyone is like "oh this new EA thinks he can question us, blah blah blah" and be thought of poorly when I have not even put in time yet you know? Trust me I'm pretty strong minded and I speak my mind sometimes to much LOL, (gotten me in a lot of trouble in school in the past LOL) It didn't really put off a "we run this, listen to us, its OUR WAY" kind of vibe so it didn't bother me. My lodge has been pretty supportive and has not done anything to make me feel alienated. I can't really change the fact that it was a MM only type thing (according to their words). I just don't feel the need to burn any bridges this early or stir up any conflicts because of my ignorance towards the craft. I shall find out soon enough more of our rules and regulations, and then I will learn and be more out spoken then. This situation just didn't feel right for me to speak out just yet, maybe I'm naive or something ( cant think of the right word at the moment ). I do value all of your opinions and trust me I'm listening and taking heed to all your words. At the end of the day though whats done is done, I can't change his choice he made, Ill be sure to educate myself more and later down the road when stuff like this occurs ill be informed and ready to argue my points. There's been to many times in my life where i argue a point with someone and I'm not properly informed, I've learned learn all you can first, then take your stand on a topic, your taken more seriously that way. (I'm not sure if this came across rude or anything but It's not meant to sound that if it does, like I said, I value all of your opinions)
 

Bill_F

Active Member
Slippery slope. Everyone's just looking out for you Josh. Not to mention, it never hurts to ask questions about the Lodge rules, and it's never to soon to start learning them.

LOL... we must have been typing at the same time!
 

Josh

Member
Yea, that was awkward LOL , I refreshed the page and was like what?. That's happened to me a few times already on the forum LOL.
 

Ashlar2006

Masonic Mafia
As Bill stated , we are merely looking out for you . We have been there , beaten down by these old heads who say "Because we say so !" . if you want to wait until you have a little more experience under your belt , that is fine . Just do not fall into the trap of " Well , it has always been done this way ."

There is are these things called "Traditional Mistakes " . Lodges have been doing things for years which are WRONG , yet refuse to correct said mistakes .
 
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