FamilyMan
Fidelis ad Mortem
Very true.
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Winter
I've been here before
First off, as has been posted, most jurisdictions in the US require the business of the Lodge to be conducted in the Third Degree. I won't debate the merits, or lack thereof, of excluding EA's and FC's from the business of the Lodge.
But the business of the Lodge in my opinion is just that, the business of the Lodge, and should be done in a Tyled Lodge.
That being said, when a Lodge spends so much of it's time on just the everyday business of the Lodge during a stated communication it will serve no purpose other than to make the members not want to go and if they do attend they can't wait to go home. We put so much more focus on the mundane administration of our Lodges that we never have the time for what we are supposed to be focusing on. The personal and collective growth of Masons and our Order.
If the Lodge meeting has been completely taken over by the everyday administration business of the Lodge it seems to me that the problem is in the organization of how the business is handled, not whether we conduct the business in a Tyled format or whether we have enough people that know the ritual.
I'm not harshing your Lodge Fireman! lol Merely suggesting that most Lodges in the US could do with a dose of reorganization.
But the business of the Lodge in my opinion is just that, the business of the Lodge, and should be done in a Tyled Lodge.
That being said, when a Lodge spends so much of it's time on just the everyday business of the Lodge during a stated communication it will serve no purpose other than to make the members not want to go and if they do attend they can't wait to go home. We put so much more focus on the mundane administration of our Lodges that we never have the time for what we are supposed to be focusing on. The personal and collective growth of Masons and our Order.
If the Lodge meeting has been completely taken over by the everyday administration business of the Lodge it seems to me that the problem is in the organization of how the business is handled, not whether we conduct the business in a Tyled format or whether we have enough people that know the ritual.
I'm not harshing your Lodge Fireman! lol Merely suggesting that most Lodges in the US could do with a dose of reorganization.
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SMIB to the part in BOLD....First off, as has been posted, most jurisdictions in the US require the business of the Lodge to be conducted in the Third Degree. I won't debate the merits, or lack thereof, of excluding EA's and FC's from the business of the Lodge.
But the business of the Lodge in my opinion is just that, the business of the Lodge, and should be done in a Tyled Lodge.
That being said, when a Lodge spends so much of it's time on just the everyday business of the Lodge during a stated communication it will serve no purpose other than to make the members not want to go and if they do attend they can't wait to go home. We put so much more focus on the mundane administration of our Lodges that we never have the time for what we are supposed to be focusing on. The personal and collective growth of Masons and our Order.
If the Lodge meeting has been completely taken over by the everyday administration business of the Lodge it seems to me that the problem is in the organization of how the business is handled, not whether we conduct the business in a Tyled format or whether we have enough people that know the ritual.
I'm not harshing your Lodge Fireman! lol Merely suggesting that most Lodges in the US could do with a dose of reorganization.
I agree with the reorganization.... I still dont see a valid reason as to why the "business meeting" needs to be tyled.....because that is the way it has always been is not a valid reason to me....Here we can open in any degree so that is not an issue of inclusion for the EA & FC.....I still feel a "tyled" lodge is for ritual, education, practice, learning new chairs etc..... I dont believe it (business affairs) should be open to John Q Public...it can be a private meeting.... just find the notion of it being ritualistic meeting pointless.
Bills are the business of all members; NOT backroom politics of a select few. And, Lodge business can not be conducted other than stated Meetings, nor before stated time of the meeting and must be properly recorded in the Lodge minutes. ... If a member doesn't show up, then that is his problem.
"To ME....a tyled Lodge should be ...." ... When you become Grand Master, you can dictate that to your jurisdiction. ... But Georgia Code stipulates business to be conducted within the Lodge.
removed12612
Guest
Never said they should be for a select few.....never said it couldnt be a stated....here a stated is one that is at a set time....never said minutes shouldnt be recorded.....
I am NOT trying to dictate anything....just a mere expression of my humble opinions.....I do know what the "code" says here too...which is the same as GA....but that still doesnt give a valid "MASONIC" reason as to why a business meeting should be held in a tyled lodge...... I have no inclination to make even the remotest attempt to change it.... just talk amongst friends and Brothers
removed12612
Guest
If the code book said we had to wear our undies and an apron and thats it in Lodge...would that make it a Masonic reason to do it?.....NO....I get that the "code" book says to....I still want a "Masonic" reason....if there is on
Winter
I've been here before
Because we are an Order whose foundation of everything we do is based in and on the ritualized way of doing everything we do. It makes sense to me that even the mundane matters we deal with should be part of our ritualized way of doing things.
removed12612
Guest
Except we basically use "Roberts Rules of Order" for our business meetings ( the exact format we use in Lodge is the same as it was/is at the VFD I was on)...but I can appreciate this answer...it is more than the code says too...
Winter
I've been here before
Doing even the everyday business of the Lodge in a ritualized manner tells the Masons involved and the world at large that this is Masonic business being done by Freemasons. It serves as a distinct means of seperating what we do from the rest of the world. That it is something apart and different, unique and special. Even if it is just to fix the leaky roof.
removed12612
Guest
See.... now you are giving viable answers.... you are a pretty good explainer
Winter
I've been here before
Thank you. Having knowledge is useless if you cannot pass it to others successfully.See.... now you are giving viable answers.... you are a pretty good explainer
removed12612
Guest
EXACTLY......I didnt mean to be argumentative (with anyone) but using the "code" is not a true Masonic reason....all to often it is used as a crutch because one can not give any other Masonic reason....Thank you. Having knowledge is useless if you cannot pass it to others successfully.
Asking questions is a logical process after the completion of the degree work....well in my thought process anyways
mdonahue66
Mike
If I want to discuss something Masonic, in lodge is the best place to do it. Even if it's just a business meeting. And if we're tyled, we cans speak freely without regards to secrets. Hard staying on topic with statement about undies and aprons!!
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Gary
Guest
Fireman, Bro. Donahue obviously hasn't been conferred the sacred Masonic Squirrel Degree yet! LOLBUTT
removed12612
Guest
He is still just a chipmunk....Fireman, Bro. Donahue obviously hasn't been conferred the sacred Masonic Squirrel Degree yet! LOL
..... masonic discussion in Lodge....has he lost his mind???
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Gary
Guest
LOL, He hasn't lost his mind yet... I'm sure our "linear discussions" are making him wonder though.He is still just a chipmunk....
Bro. Donahue, We only kid with those that we like, so please don't be offended by our cheekiness.
mdonahue66
Mike
I'm going straight home to refreshen on some Chip and Dale cartoons. If memory serves me right, those two chipmunks always got the best of their antagonistsLOL, He hasn't lost his mind yet... I'm sure our "linear discussions" are making him wonder though.
Bro. Donahue, We only kid with those that we like, so please don't be offended by our cheekiness.
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Gary
Guest
That's the spirit Brother!
Hey, wait a minute...I'm one of the antagonists!
Hey, wait a minute...I'm one of the antagonists!